The new Sourceforge team has generally done a great job. You'd never actually make that stick in court. But like I said that's just fantasy academic theory.

You'd never actually win in court, but in plain conversational argument, if say the crapware caused some damage, the vendor could't claim that the user voluntarily accepted the risk of damage by voluntarily installing the software. It also invalidates any arguments based on 'the user accepted' something. It's that it exposes the true intent in a way that can't be denied. The norm is already bad, and this is just a little more of the same. But that just doesn't quite add up to proof of anything.īut offering one extra, and then only trying again with another if the user declined the first, THAT exposes that the only intent of the extra was to get the user to take it any way they can manage to do it, and not a sincere 'offer' of something the user might have actually voluntarily sought otherwise. You could try by pointing out things like how the outer packaging only said that the contents would be Product not Product+OtherProduct, and how the checkbox for the non-advertized and un-expected extra was pre-selected and visually tiny. We 'just know' that's bs, but it's possible and it's hard to disprove purely on the face of it. If an installer always proposes an extra, or 2, or 13, then the vendor can claim 'I'm just offering this extra that I honestly and sincerely believe the user might be interested in and might benefit from'. The special difference is just that it exposes the intent which was theoretically deniable otherwise, even if everyone 'just knows' what's really going on. That dynamic reactive 2nd attempt to trick you, which is only invoked if you caught and declined the first, is materially different from the first attempt, and different from if the installer always presented both extras. I think it would be a very weak case and practically impossible to make that argument. It might possibly qualify as an attempt to deceive. I didn't say it was illegal, just dickish.įraud.

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